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Is jsp designed for use by large websites

Is SJAS 9 really using tomcat inside ? its already 2.5 and the behaviour is
slightly different like the getContextPath(), and other function which
returns null at tomcat 5.5 has a return value at SJAS 9.

       Log log = Utility.getLogger(this);
       ServletContext context = evt.getServletContext();
       log.info("servlet context name : " + context.getServletContextName()
);
       log.info("server info : " + context.getServerInfo());
       log.info("servlet api " + context.getMajorVersion() + '.' +
context.getMinorVersion());


On 12/7/06, JiaDong Huang <jhuang64 (at) optusnet.com.au> wrote: 

As far as I know, JBoss/SunOne are all bundling Tomcat inside.

Not sure where the feeling of "the number of Tomcat users to attenuate
over
time" comes from.

Dong

-----Original Message-----
From: epyonne [mailto:epyonneNOSPAM (at) hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, 7 December 2006 3:07 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Is jsp designed for use by large websites

Totally agree. PHP is no doubt an excellent tool, but primarily for
hobbyists or standalone type of deployment. On the other hand, Java is
widely used on enterprise application. If you open up the hood and look,
all
the expensive application like WebSphere are running Tomcat inside.

epy.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Leon Rosenberg" <rosenberg.leon (at) googlemail.com>
To: "Tomcat Users List" <users (at) tomcat.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: Is jsp designed for use by large websites


> On 12/6/06, Peter Crowther <Peter.Crowther (at) melandra.com> wrote:
> > > From: Martin Gainty [mailto:mgainty (at) hotmail.com]
> > > As Tomcat is OpenSource (and not proprietary) and can be
> > > installed on any OS (vs just 1) I dont undertand
> > > What is causing the number of Tomcat users to attenuate over time?
> >
> > Ancient history, I know, but I'll respond anyway.
> >
> > A Model T Ford is a perfectly good car.  However, if Ford don't
innovate
> > and other car manufacturers do, people buying new cars will switch
away
> > from Ford to vehicles that are cheaper, faster, have lower fuel costs
or
> > innovations like a roof.
> >
> > Tomcat and JSP is a perfectly good model for web
applications.  However,
> > if the Java community and the Tomcat developers don't innovate and
other
> > communities do (for example the PHP community and Microsoft), people
> > deploying new applications will switch away from Tomcat and JSP to
> > systems that are cheaper, faster to develop, have lower
hosting/running
> > costs or innovations like per-webapp memory and CPU throttling.
> >
> > The issue is not that Tomcat is bad in absolute terms, it's simply
that
> > other communities are out-innovating it so it's becoming a (perceived)
> > poorer *relative* choice.
>
> I'd too like to know which communities are "out-innovating" java?
> To stay in you example, comparing php (or ruby for this matter) to
> java is like comparing bicycles with cars.
> Sure its fun to make a ride on sunday. Sure it's ok to bike to the
> office on a sunny day, if the office is 30 minutes away.
> But trying to deliver a fridge to the customer with a bike is rather
stupid.
>
> regards
> Leon
>
> Btw. I'm ashamed that I don't know it, but does C# has a similar
> concept to ThreadLocals?
>
>
> >
> >                 - Peter
> >
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